Corel versus Photoshop

I've used Corel Painter IX for some time now, and I'm trying to learn how to use Photoshop. I'm interested about creating images with painting and airbrushing tools, but I can't get hang on Photoshop . I've read tutorials yes, but tutorials normally concentrate either Photoshop or Corel.

Any good ideas, tutorials from artist who have used both Corel Painter and Photoshop? Could tell me also about the basic differences which you see between these two program?

Thank you all ^^

Photoshop FTW!

Corel feels very cliparty to me, though that could be because I used it for all of half a semester in a uni course whereas I've been using Photoshop since 5 or so.

*feels old*

Looks like you do mostly drawing stuff so unless you're particularly fond of vectors (in which case I'd use Illustrator over Photoshop but that's me) all you really need to know about is b (press the letter to get the brush tool), get familiar with ts various settings, and play with the layers and their various settings. That's more or less all I do (except when I'm doing texture maps where I eriously abuse the filters though again depends what I'm doing) but I can't draw to save my life so may not count

In the end though the program is a means to an end, unless you are or are intending to go for a job where Photoshop is used it doesn't matter what you use as long as you get the results you want.

Yes, I do mostly drawing stuff. And thought I'm not intending (right now) to go for a job where Photoshop is used, I want to learn it. Also, I think that by depending only one program and forgetting everything else might narrow my "road to development" . I've used photoshop at school, but in the school we mostly played with pohotos, so I didn't learn much about the drawing stuff .

For me, Corel is more easy, I get the result I want with one or two tools, where Photoshop feels technical mess with all the settings one might do. So, what I'm trying to find is the way how to make same things (for example draw metal/ wood/ smooth skin/ hair etc.) in two differend program. And this way find the program that I like the best. And also get tips and trics from others. Who knows, I might even switch for Photoshop .




Why is that? ^^

Photoshop fanboys and girls feel the same way about Corel products, and vice versa.

Personally, I use both, I prefer Painter for painting..

Heres the difference in painting workflows though, with painter brushes, there engines mix paint while on the canvas, quite intuitively, where is Photoshop blends colours via varying opacities, this means users are colour picking for medium/intermediate colours to create a smooth gradation of colour.

Yes, painting quality images is obviously possible in both applications, but as you are a Painter user already, I'd recommend keeping it that way and rather using photoshop as a correction, image editing application as that is where it really shines, and it's tools are unmatched by any other software package, even Corel products in that regard.

If your looking to paint similar stuff to what you would normally in Painter, take a look around cgtalk, cgpad, cghub, conceptart.org, and other cg websites for photoshop custom brushes, the thing about photoshop brushes is they are perfect for easily emulating textures via photographic reference, rocks, mountains, metal sheets, hair, skin, anything, so get a good arsenal of custom brushes and experiment.

Hope this helps, feel free to ask anymore questions

Thank you, that helped me heaps. Especially about the colours . Yeah, I'll guess the feelings are that way in both Corel and Photoshop users. I'll stop by and ask if I come around with a problem I can't solve in Photoshop .

I'm not sure what kindof skin you want to do but how I do hair is with a small hard brush and repeat process with a couple of different shades of the same colour to give some depth. Found you can get some okay tree bark with a similar process

I get the whole expanding your horizons thing, I dabbled with a lot of 3d programs, particulatly 3d Studio and Maya seeing as they get used everywhere for everything. Eventually decided I was going to make good things with Lightwave (gets used most places for a lot of things, usually as a modeller and/or large amounts of fibrous things and the only one I could actually do anything useful with) as I didn't have a lot of free time and could only be either half decent at one thing rather than slightly better than crap at a lot of thiings so guess which I picked

Thank you for the tip

definitely photoshop

Have you used both programs? ^^

Glad I helped, but at the end of the day, trial and error, and experimentation are the only was to learn a program, some may disagree, but it's true.

I believe in that too, but too much errors coming up to a novice without any knowledge brings only frustration.

Follow a few tutorials here and there, relating to what you want to achieve in your image, www.imaginefx.com have some great workshops if your interested.

But once you learn how to properly construct an image in Photoshop, experiment, and trial and error different techniques to make your images

if u use pen mouse or grafier , i suggest u used painter. but one my friend use both to making image, and her artwork very imaging cool (http://froggiechan.deviantart.com/)

I've got wacom (an old one, but still working). I'll go and watch your friends gallery ^^.

Photoshop is better for Anime and coral is better for lining art and traditional projects

for example if you are going to do back grounds, cel sheets, special effects, photo enhancement, and layers use photo shop.

if you are painting hair, skin, or traditional mimic projects use coral.

I can explain further if you wish to know

i actually use painter x and photoshop cs4 for some of my pics, i like to mix both. I like painter because its much more intuitive, and the tools are much more interesting and diverse. Its much easier to give texture to your pics with painter, and being able to mix colors is a lot of fun . Ill generally start sketching and painting in painter then fix it all up in photoshop. Though it doesnt mean i never start with photoshop either. Photoshop cs4 is pretty nice now since you can rotate the canvas. That option was always available for painter before and i always thought it was very dumb that ps didnt have that, its so handy . Photoshop is a nice all-around program though, easy to edit pics, add and customize brushes. I dont even use a lot of brushes myself actually :/! Its the first program i ever learned, im sure youll get the hang of it eventually. You just need to play around with it a lil

SHAP00PI said it all mostly anyway

Thank you for your answer . I'm interested to hear more, if you have time to answer. ^^



I have cs3, so I don't know if it's a lot different than cs4. I think you're right about the painter being more intuitive and I too think that bein able to mix colours is fantastic. My first main problem with photoshop was that when I painted with corel I used a lot of colour mixing in the pic and I didn't know how to actually do it in photoshop.. ehheh ^^''. What file format you use when you move the pic from corel to photoshop?

I've never used Corel, but the I adjusted to the learning curve with PHotoshop by doing random tutorials, whether simple or difficult, on the internet.

It just seems like in Photoshop there is 10 ways to do 1 thing. The problem is, finding the 1 of 10 ways that fits you best to get the job done.

Photoshop elements was my first photoshop ever I loved it since that day. I'm now on Cs3 trying to move up to Cs4, my suggestion would be just random tutorials as stated above you can really work magic with photoshop.