DD's What are they good for?

Yehp today another DD was delivered to my doorstep.
The question I have, after receiving some and actually deleting a couple; what does the artist get from a DD?
First thing that pops into one's mind is exposure, yeahp a piece that had several hundred views will get several thousand views in a matter of days, the question is who is viewing it? friends of course, maybe even family, and then? who are the other 20 30 thousand people? I had a couple of my DD's with the "print available" activated, did those sell?.....not a single one.
So are this thousands of people just wallpaper seeking freaks? will this exposure ever provide views and contacts with interesting people?
My guess its that DA its a bowl of soup the size of an ocean, that consists mainly of kitty snapshots, and poor manga spiced with millions of look at me vacation fotos, and good art its lost in the middle of all this. A DD boost you up to the surface, but if no one happens to be there at this time, you will sink back into the mess once again and all there is to show its the view count in your image that has slowed down once again.

What is a DD?

LOL right!! what is that?

Another thing from DD's is pride. People love seeing 'evidence' that they're special, good, and stand out from the crowd with excellent work. It also gives them bragging rights.

DD's are really just to get artists noticed... even though they tend to give them to already popular ones. I'm a strong believer in giving them only once per person, not 2, 3, 4, or more to just one artist. It's a waste of opportunity and turns DD's into something common for that person, decreasing its value.

DD is, I think, Daily Deviations.

Not all of the staff is from dev art.

Oh right. That took me a while to figure out what it was LOL

Its a powerful tool; its powerful because of the massive size of that site, so getting one its like paying advertising for a week.
Still the problem is that more and more this tool its not used to promote good art, and more than ever you find DD'S that are just plain and simple crap, plus the many cases I have seen where the piece its actually a ripp. So this shows us that the problem is the people that are awarding this dont know about art, dont care about art, and dont even care checking out something before you mess it up.
And in general that is why I am here, and that is what, to me Artician should keep in first place all the time The Artist, The Art




I see that now still one should keep a close EYE on the competition.

That's subjective. What may seem as art to you may not be considered art to another person. Do you think a person would post up art that is crap, especially if they knew that tens of thousand will be looking at the piece? No. I have a bunch of friends who are GMs and Senior MN@s and I feel that this statement is total bull. They make mistakes, who doesn't? Is it their fault for posting up ripped art and not checking it, hell yes. But that's just it, they are human just like everyone else. Also, don't overexagerrate, it wasn't many times. I can probably count on both of my hands how many times that has happened since the site launched. Please provide evidence and don't blatantly talk out of your ass just because this is a different site.

That is total bull. If you even know half of the things those GMs do you would not even say something like that. Those people do so much for the community and you have the audacity to fire off about them on a site that they might not log on to defend themselves. I do not appreciate that you would say something like that without even comprehending the work they do to keep the community afloat, for free.

Please do not talk about anything if you know nothing behind the closed doors, it shows your character too well.

Interesting, a DA groupie. I have been on DA for 4 years, I managed one of the best groups over there Terraspace for 2 of those 4, I have organized and participated in contests, I know GM's that are still there, new ones and others that are gone I have seen staff give out GM'S positions to people that hardly know what Photoshop is; I have talked about all this misfortunes over at my journal and on several different posts on that site, I have survived the mudkip stupidity.
They do post crap as DD'S mostly because they dont know about good art, they just go WOW kewl! DD. The most recent and painful example is when they allocated the space art gallery to a guy that didnt knew the difference between a nebula and space dust, so he awarded DD's to a ton of CRAP; although he must have as you say believed it was cool, he didnt think he was posting crap, his ignorance was the problem.
All in all I am not hiding here firing off at them, I have said this in their own site I have said it through notes, comments, and journals; so you acting as a saving hero for the poor people at DA that work almost for nothing, its ridiculous, the fact that they exploit kids that want to be volunteers, making them work hard for no pay whatsoever has nothing to do with the fact that deviantART, Inc Estimated Worth is $23.62 Million USD, so keep your know all, robin hood attitude bull at bay. People saying and thinking that way prevents the treatment of the main issues behind the DD mess, the root of the problem and what this post was discussing the staff the company behind DA dont care about art anymore. Gladly there is Artician where we can once again try to build up an art site that always keeps the artist in mind, and that is what this post is about; so you must relax and think before YOU overreact and explode in such childish manner.

stupid enough the GMs do this all for free, while the site tries to get money from the user almost everywhere.
I won't say anything too bad about that site, though. I can imagine it's a shitload of work for every single GM and people should rather appreciate it. The problem with the DD selections is that GMs not only have to be skilled, they also have to be dedicated and mature enough for such a position.
All the money-making is bugging me, too, though. It's a torture if you're not subcribed. "Needs Premiummembership" on top of your profile and "subscribe now!", "buy prints!" or various other ads absolutely everywhere.

Agreed with you on that.

hum, the title made me smile ;p aren't we on artician ? well, I mean I was surprise to see a question related to dA on artician.
btw, while most of dA members are actively/religiously there on fridays night, I am here uploading a few more pics =D ... so I guess it speaks for itself ^^ hehe (even thought I've got a DD on a decent work--in fact one of my most favorite one from last year, but that is really subjective ^^)

eh, I'm glad to be back and to get to know you more here !
take care, be creative and enjoy life !

Aimelle~

Art is subjective. What you feel is crap art won't be to someone else, and what you feel is amazing art will be considered crap by someone else. That's the beauty of art - no-one can say it is definitively amazing or awful as it's all personal opinion. Take, for instance, the work of Pollock and Rothko and Still when they were painting in their at the time ground-breaking styles. A lot of people felt that was crap at the time and didn't deserve gallery space. A lot of people still do. And yet there are many, many people who feel and felt otherwise, including the owner of the Guggenheim gallery. Similarly in more modern times a lot of people think that Damien Hirst and Tracy Emin are crap, a similar amount feel the opposite.

Just because a photograph chosen as a daily deviation doesn't follow the classical rules of photography, that doesn't make it any less a valid piece of art, it just means that it's a piece of art that doesn't follow the classical rules of photography.

Quite why you've chosen to discuss daily deviations on a site which isn't related to deviantArt I don't know. Surely if you have an issue with them, discuss it with them on deviantArt, or forget about them completely and discuss Artician-related or art-related things or on here. I've been a deviantArt member for over 9 years (yep, from the very beginning) and it's a site and community I enjoy. I enjoy other art-related sites as well, and hope to enjoy Artician a similar amount, however I don't bitch about any of them on the other regardless of what I think about them - if I find a site that I don't like, I simply don't visit it.

Subjective to a degree it is, it comes down to the taste and eye the person awarding the DD has and the amount of people with confirmed good eye for art that believe X image its terrible, then most probably that image sucks. You cant setup every doodle, every cell phone snapshot, uploaded to DA or elsewhere behind the "Art is subjective" Shield there is definitively crap being posted; your example is amongst artists and art communities, even if you like or dislike Pollock and Rothko or Damien Hirst, Tracy Emin and the opinion the owner of the Guggenheim Gallery has it is and are informed valid opinions by people in art circles; not to be confused by the mudkip loving people at DA which are hardly an informed art circle or community. A photo doesnt have to follow classic rules? of course not, still a good photograph, rules or no rules jumps to the eye and contains certain qualities behind it that makes it work. We can take one of your images http://diado.artician.com/portfolio/Tendrils/ and ask what its better your photography or this http://5tailedwolfmisstress.deviantart.com...plush-138767695 or maybe this http://bear-rosia.deviantart.com/art/Razem...no-my-138767620 a huge percentage of viewers will say your image is the best on all counts included everyone that has some sense of quality and knowledge about art, so again art is subjective to a degree amongst some parameters.
As for why I choose to discuss it here? well its a "GENERAL DISCUSSION" forum so as easy as someone would like to discuss House latest episode, Linux, Cruiseships, the latest youtube video I think I am well within my rights to talk about whatever I choose, so being this a fresh site where many former DA people are choosing as a new home I decided to share my views, as I mentioned previously I have discussed it on DA I have talked to people at DA on journals and through notes, so I am not hiding nor do I think DA its an individual that will get his/her feelings hurt because of what I say its a biiig corporate site that couldnt care less; you make it sound like now I have to apologize to Redmond for all the times I said WINDOWS sucks!
Nice photos you have BTW cheers!

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